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I had this Chinese adjustable 2 kW SMPS (0-24 V and up to 60 A) for few years now and everything was fine with it, but recently it let some smoke out and blew a fuse, it could still be turned on and seems to work, though I didn't try it at high load, just couple amps and 12 V.

I opened it up (I'm not completely inept when it comes to electronics, so please let's skip the danger talk, I'm fully aware of the high voltage in SMPS), found the "smoking gun", which was the 680 ohm/1 W in parallel with the 1 uF cap (diagram below), one of the legs was melted from what looked like a short to the other leg (PCB was very dirty, there was no charring of the board at all), cleaned it up, replaced it with another 1 W 680 resistor, turn it on, and it starts to heat up and burn the paint on the resistor.

So I'm at a bit of a loss as to what would cause this, both 1uF desoldered, measure within the 10% on a cheapie ESR meter, rectifier measures fine also.

Transistors on high voltage side measure ok (didn't desolder, was looking for shorts), and so does the rectifier on the low voltage side.

Any ideas what would cause enough current through that resistor to heat it up so badly? Note that the original resistor had no signs of heat, the colors are readable, it had one of its legs disintegrate (I suppose from the dirt on the PCB shorting to adjacent track that was the other AC input line). I tried a 5 k 0.5 W resistor I had at hand there, same deal, starts to burn the paint and smoke.

This is the diagram what the input looks like, I left out the thermistor/relay circuit for inrush current limitation, since I figured it couldn't be at fault. I also left out the small caps from each AC leg to ground, they were also ok when measured desoldered. enter image description here

winny
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  1. The resistor was consequential damage to a failure from contamination and inadequate gaps on PCB. Clean well and coat with silicone or nail polish (?)

  2. You must be reading the bands in reverse or something. 150K minimum

Tony Stewart EE75
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The power being dissipated by 680Ω across 230V RMS is:

$$ \begin{aligned} P &= \frac{V_2}{R} \\ \\ &= \frac{230^2}{680} \\ \\ &= 78W \end{aligned} $$

Obviously, this resistor can't be 680Ω The resistance across 230V RMS that will disspiate 1W is:

$$ \begin{aligned} R &= \frac{V_2}{P} \\ \\ &= \frac{230^2}{1} \\ \\ &= 53k\Omega \\ \\ \end{aligned} $$

This is, of course, a minimum.

A 68kΩ resistor would probably have an orange exponent band (three zeros), perhaps you've mistaken orange for brown (one zero)?

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I looked at what multimeter told me about the original resistor; it was 0.680M, not 0.680k like I assumed.

I found the 680k in a pile of old atx power supplies, soldered it in, and all seems fine now.

And, as was suggested, I widened the gap between the tracks; it was ~1mm, now it is 2, used a bit of clear nail polish to tidy it up.

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  • You should really accept one of the perfectly correct answers you've been provided with. – Matt Timmermans Sep 04 '22 at 14:38
  • I was looking for for a button or something to do that, but all I can do is upvote (which I did), share, cite and flag for negative things, there is no "accept solution" option as far as I can see anywhere at any replies That is why I decided to write the result in a reply to the thread. – user321181 Sep 05 '22 at 07:09
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    https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/how-does-accepting-an-answer-work/5235#5235 – Matt Timmermans Sep 05 '22 at 11:52
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    Dry Air gaps are about 3kV/mm, dry PCB insulation about 20kV/mm, humid dust surface can easily be <500 V/mm so if you had a line transient, that fused the solder joint. Rookie layout if it is not an air gap of 2mm or 6mm surface gap to pass line transient test. Unfortunately they only HIPOT to ground in production. – Tony Stewart EE75 Sep 05 '22 at 14:51
  • thanks Matt, but that option wasn't there earlier for me, I just noticed I got awarded "Scholar" badge, which allows the acceptance of answers, and the "button" became available, and I did mark the more thorough answer, shame I can mark only one, since the other answer was just as helpful – user321181 Sep 05 '22 at 20:45