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I am replicating this potentiostat schematic.

Potentiostat 3 lead

It eventually works as I want it to, and I get the desired readings on the output. I input a voltage in the Vin (top left), and I get the Vout at the right. I do not use the "Output reference" at the bottom left at all.

I do not understand what happens at the B op-amp. It is a voltage follower, but I drive the bias voltage from my Vin to its output pin, like I force it to output a specific voltage. Why?

If I try to analyze it from the moment I bias voltage at the Vin:

  1. Vin bias voltage is applied, it sees the virtual GND of V- of OP-AMP A, so current flows towards it.
  2. The Vin current cannot go to the V- of op-amp A, it moves to the R2.
  3. The current cannot go to V- of op-amp B, it will try to go inside the output of op-amp B, but B at the same time tries to keep its V- and V+ at the same potential. Don't my Vin bias and Vout of B "oppose" each other?

I later found another similar potentiostat circuit here.

potentiostat better circuit?

See, the bias Vin voltage here only goes inside the A1, it does not go to any output of any op-amp, and makes things really simple:

  1. A1 takes input the Vin bias voltage, changes its output.
  2. A2 is just a voltage follower, gives feedback of the voltage from the RE of the postentiostat.
  3. A1 changes its output to match the feedback and the Vin bias voltage.
  4. Finally we measure the current with the op-amps at the vout (current to voltage converter A3, and a voltage follower A4.)

I will replicate this second schematic as well and see how it works out.

EDIT: The second schematic did not output the same result as the first one.

Does the first circuit makesense, or was a slight mistake in the circuit? That is what I think.

JRE
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  • "Vin bias voltage is applied, it sees the Vitrual GND of V- of OP-AMP A". You need to think about what makes V- of op-amp A behave as a virtual ground. – Finbarr Feb 07 '22 at 16:01
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    What are those electrodes all about (and please don't ask me to read the linked article) - it rises and falls on them as I see it. – Andy aka Feb 07 '22 at 16:10
  • @Andyaka In a few words, these electrodes (its a sensor actually) are some wires (pads) close enough to each other that they let current flow between them if they get inside a liquid. So you put the electrodes (sensor) inside a liquid, and they start conducting and/or creating capacitances between them. – Christianidis Vasileios Feb 07 '22 at 19:17
  • I happened to have a course covering potentiostat. The first circuit is exactly the typical potentiostat circuit introduced in our class. Amp B in the first circuit is configured as a source follower which is a negative feedback system. It may be easier to consider the equilibrium state(whatever the initial condition, or opposition you mentioned, it will be in equilibrium eventually). It is known that when in equilibrium, \$V_{OUTB}=V_{B+} = V_{B-}\$(ideally). \$V_{B+}\$ is set to \$ -V_{IN}\$ then, which means the reference electrode is set to \$ -V_{IN}\$. – George Guo Apr 30 '22 at 20:37
  • @ChristianidisVasileios, I uploaded the FINAL version of my answer. There is a circuit schematic that you can simulate here too. – EJE May 01 '22 at 00:07

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Your final question:

Does the first circuit make sense, or was a slight mistake in the circuit?

Short answer: As a conceptual potentiostat, both circuits seem to be conceptually correct to me.
Circuit one (for me) is not an educational representation and is a bit convoluted way to explain how a potentiostat works.

Other questions & answers were addressed along with this post.

Background:
About 20+ years ago, a friend of mine needed several Potentiostats for his Ph.D. research related to corrosion and some coating (paint) tests. At that time, these devices were prohibitively expensive (US$ 5K~10K) and he needed about ten devices! He asked for my help and I gave it a try, studying this "occult device", as seen by the Corrosion specialists, and built a working prototype for less than US$ 100.
I found your question, and the link you provided; then discovered this Texas' AN-1798 article describing something that may be useful for you.

With this background, I will explain how I see the matter and then your questions.
It will support the answers and contribute to demystifying this subject, at least for others in the EESE community.

Potentiostat Fundamentals:

Potentiostat is an electronic device that maintains the potential of a part of interest installed in the Working Electrode WE, when compared to a Reference Electrode RE.
This reference electrode is physically small and needs to be measured with a high impedance to not induce undesired polarization and bias effects.
The WE potential is achieved by controlling the current (Positive or Negative biased) from the Counter-Electrode CE (alternatively called Auxiliary Electrode AE) to the working electrode, in a closed loop.
The specialist wishes to obtain data to plot the current as a function of the voltage in the specimen (WE). See the device setup and curve in the blue box on the following figure.

I will exemplify for electrochemical corrosion of metals now (I understand the case for bio-sensor can be slightly different).
If the metal specimen in the WE is made more negative, the cathodic current increases. If the WE is reversed, it will be more positive and this anodic current sometimes increases faster (higher slope - at least for certain alloy-electrolyte combinations).

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It makes some sense to me that corrosion specialists see the current as their variable of interest, so they usually plot the current on the horizontal axis and in the log scale (it changes a lot!). Voltages are plotted on the vertical axis with a linear scale (see red boxed curves).

Electronically and mathematically, I would prefer to see the Current plotted (in the Y-axis) against Voltage (in the X-axis - green box).
The function I (V) also makes more sense to me, as the independent variable (of reference) is the voltage and the measured variable is the current. This is the plotting style adopted here (as in the last graph).

Potentiostat and Specimen simulation:

The conceptual diagram below (not so efficiently) uses "three" Op-Amp, but helps to explain how things work:

  • Amp_A drives the current on the CE - either source or drain. If the current is large, it should be a Power Amplifier, driven as Amp_A.
    The Op-Amp Amp_A2 receives the user input set-point and prepares it (inverts), while Amp_A is configured as a "Power" differential amplifier (Gain = 1000; low output impedance) comparing the desired set-point and the reference voltage from Op-Amp_B and tries to cancel any difference.
  • Amp_B is a unit gain amplifier, to isolate the voltage from RE with a very high input impedance. It then buffers this voltage to be used in the input of Amp_A, or to be measured by the specialist, who confirms the Potentiostat has achieved the desired potential set-point.
  • Amp_C measures the voltage drop in the shunt resistor (1 milli-Ohm), buffering and amplifying (G = 1000). The output voltage is equivalent to 1Volt / 1Ampere. Observe that with this configuration the voltage in the Reference electrode is NOT exactly at ground potential, as there is a voltage drop in R_shunt (R1).
  • Electrochemical behavior of the Metal on Working Electrode is represented qualitatively with an Ohmic R_WE, in parallel with C2 (important for frequency sweep - not the case here), and the electrochemical non-linearities are represented by the modified parameters in one Zener diode component (V_direct = +0.7V; Vz = -0.1V R = 1 Ohm).
    The working electrode (WE) is modeled inside the green dashed line, while the blue dashed line represents the complete electrochemical cell: WE together with CE, RE, and the electrolyte.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

When this circuit is simulated with a DC Sweep and using a Logarithmic scale, we get a similar "polarization curve":

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About your questions:

On the first circuit you said:

I do not understand what happens at the B op-amp. It is a voltage follower, but I drive the bias voltage from my Vin to its output pin, like I force it to output a specific voltage. Why?

OpAmp_B simply buffers the potential of the Reference Electrode. Per the above explanations (including AN-1798), it is necessary to have a very high impedance (ideally zero bias current) to preserve the integrity of RE.
OpAmp_B is configured as a unit gain (non-inverting) amplifier. This is one configuration among several possible analog "operations" that can be done with an Op-Amp.
See a nice collection of amplifier circuits nowadays published by Texas - AN31 here.

"3. The current cannot go to V- of op-amp B, it will try to go inside the output of op-amp B", ..."

OpAmp_B has a very low ("zero") output impedance, so any influence of R1 or R2 does not affect the performance of Op-Amp_B (accepting push or pull of the current).

At first sight, I would not design a general-service Potentiostat with such low input impedance at R1 (110R) - but I don't know the article's specific details.
The important point is that Op-Amp_A is summing (with reverse polarities) the potentials of two sources. So Op-Amp_A is conceptually a differential amplifier:

  • V_in = user set-point.
  • V_RE = it is inverted (x -1) for Op-Amp_B and its output is also inverted!

How Amp_C is used is another point: It provides a virtual ground on the WE with a very-high transconductance gain (Rm = 29M - see next discussions of next circuit). I can only imagine the surface of the working electrode is quite small and requires diminutive polarization current.

"I later found another similar potentiostat circuit" - the second circuit

where you summarized:

  1. A1 takes input the Vin bias voltage, changes its output.
  2. A2 is just a voltage follower, gives feedback of the voltage from the RE of the postentiostat.
  3. A1 changes its output to match the feedback and the Vin bias voltage.
  4. Finally we measure the current with the op-amps at the vout (current to voltage converter A3, and a voltage follower A4.)

On this second circuit, as you said, we can observe:

  1. Amp_A2: An unit gain (buffer) amplifier for the RE.
  2. Amp_A1: The concept of a difference amplifier, subtracting the measured RE voltage from the Desired Set-Point, which is provided by the shown "Adjustable voltage reference". Observe that the amplification gain of the difference is NOT specified in this conceptual representation.
  3. Amp_A3: Is an Op-Amp that converts the input current to an output voltage. This kind of configuration is called transconductance amplifier.
    Depending on the required current, this potentiostat has 2 (or 3) gain settings, selected by G1sw or G2sw (or both in parallel).
    Also, observe that any Op-Amp wishes to maintain Vin+ and Vin- at the same voltage level.
    As Vin+ = 0 in Amp_A3, this creates a virtual ground and allows to measure the WE current at ground potential.
    This is better than my conceptual circuit, that I did NOT use a transconductance amplifier in the Amp_C exactly to show this issue. In real life this R_shunt disturbance might be negligible, but if the circuit could be improved, why not?
  4. Amp_A4: Is another unit gain buffer, to enable voltage readings of the WE current. Easier to interface with data acquisition systems.

Simulation tryouts:
As a general reminder, the circuit is a little more than "conceptual", as it can be simulated (link at its lower corner). I did not bias or selected the best Op-Amps or the most appropriate bias resistors, but the interaction capability of the shared circuit is more educative than just a conceptual circuit.
I would appreciate knowing your (and others') feedback.

. Euthymios

EJE
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I will focus here on the first circuit, and try to provide some feedback to your analysis and some information as well, which might not be obvious at first look.

Opamp B is just a voltage follower, since the RE electrode can not drive anything. It's a buffer, which copies the virtually unloaded voltage of RE into its output. It's output is low ohmic, so for any first order analysis you can assume, that it is an ideal voltage source, and thus can handle high currents.

You have noticed the current flows through R1 and R2, and their resistance value is the same as well, hence the voltage drop on the them will be the same. Since the the right end of $R_1$ is virtually grounded by Opamp A and the feedback loop, the output voltage of opamp B has to be \$-V_{in}\$ should be in the steady state of the loop. This loop is formed by Opamp A and B. Opamp A drives the control electrode in way, that the reference electrode will have \$-V_{in}\$ voltage. So \$V_{in}\$ is the goal to be achieved in the potentiostat. The main difference in the second schematic is that the non-inverting terminal of Opamp A isn't grounded, and the opamp is driven differentially. The principle is the same: drive the CE electrode according to the difference in the CE and Vin voltages. This would result in \$RE = V_{in}\$. (Note the sign change between the two cases. But still it is basically the same principle)

The presence of the 110Ω resistors weakens any drive. The input source and Opamp B should handle the current flowing through them. It is intentional. 110Ω does not make it a low power circuit, but I guess speed or noise concerns lead to this choice.

Opamp C with its feedback resistor forms a transresistance amplifier, whose input is the current drawn by the WE terminal and its output is a voltage proportional to that current \$ ( V_{out} =I_{WE} \cdot R_m ) \$. The second schematic has the same structure with a programmable low-pass filtering and with an additional buffer.

I hope it helps to understand the circuit.

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