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That "operational amplifiers" that could perform operations such as addition, subtraction, integration, were useful for voltage-based analogue computers (that were invented in the 1930s, and the "op amp" invented in 1940s) makes perfect sense to me. But, society has progressed since then. Are "operational amplifiers" still an important tool, or are they more interesting historically just like vacuum tubes are mostly historically interesting although they are still used in very niche cases still?

Context, the term “operational amplifier” itself was coined by John Ragazzini in 1947 for work towards better analogue computers. The device itself was designed for that and optimized for that. Computers use logical operations, and that makes perfect sense. The niche of analogue computers was displaced by digital computers. But the niche of “op amps” was not as it seems. I am interested in why, and asking about what their niche is mostly these days.

The inventor Raggazini was very specific with the use of his device. He wrote in 1947 "it is a simple matter to assemble the particular circuit for any system of equations for which solutions are desired" and "a method for obtaining an engineering solution for integrodifferential equations of physical systems using an electronic system" and "as an amplifier so connected can perform the mathematical operations of arithmetic and calculus on the voltages applied to its input, it is hereafter termed an "operational amplifier". So surely it was invented to calculate the solution to equations. And this makes sense to me. But why they are still so important, is what I am interested in, since they were clearly designed and optimized for something that must have been replaced mostly with digital computation. I was assuming modern uses are either for actual calculations, like their original use was (why they were invented, see Raggazini, 1947), or, that they had a property needed for the calculations that was also ideal for something else. Since this is generally how evolution, incl. technological evolution, works: co-optation.

Reference

J. R. Ragazzini, R. H. Randall and F. A. Russell, "Analysis of Problems in Dynamics by Electronic Circuits," in Proceedings of the IRE, vol. 35, no. 5, pp. 444-452, May 1947, doi: 10.1109/JRPROC.1947.232616.

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    The opamp use as a integrator ,or a differentiator has many applications in modern world(square wave generator from sine input signal) – Miss Mulan Nov 15 '21 at 21:54
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    Operational amplifiers are widely used in analog electronics. I'd consider performing arithmetics with it much less common and rather esoteric application. – Eugene Sh. Nov 15 '21 at 21:55
  • @MissMulan OK thanks. Square wave generator sounds like a good application, seem to be used a lot. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 21:58
  • @EugeneSh. Esoteric these days maybe but reading about it that seems to be their original use. I see why a cicuit designed to do logical operations on voltages is good for just that. But why are they so good for other things that they are used instead of whatever else? – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 21:59
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    They excel at filters and amplifiers. They work so well because they provide much more ideal parameters than doing something with a few transistors. – Aaron Nov 15 '21 at 22:01
  • @Aaron OK thanks. I was assuming they must have had some property, that was likely ideal for "analog computation" but not for much other things at the time, that made them be "co-opted" later on for other things, if they now are so popular as it sometimes seems. Like all evolution works. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 22:05
  • @Doge they are also essential for Butterworth filters which sre much much better than normal filters – Miss Mulan Nov 15 '21 at 22:06
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    An op-amp was literally an amplifier to do operations with. It still is. For example as mundane task as amplifying audio is just using an op-amp to multiply incoming weak signal by a constant. – Justme Nov 15 '21 at 22:08
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    They say there are no bad questions. I think "they" are wrong. What "society progress" has to do with electronic components and how it makes "addition, subtraction, integration" tasks disappear? No amount of wokeness will make hammers obsolete. Zero research effort. – Maple Nov 15 '21 at 22:09
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    @Maple They also say there are no bad opinions :) Depends on how you look at it. The stance to value all questions or opinions is like a heuristic. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 22:11
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    @MissMulan Don't give false statements. Op-amps are not essential for Butterworth filters. Butterworth type response can be achieved entirely with passive circuits. And it is a completely normal filter, like other types of filter responses. – Justme Nov 15 '21 at 22:12
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    To respond to Maple, I noticed this thing called the digital computer revolution and that it made what Vannevar Bush achieved with his machine in 1930s redundant because there were other approaches. But I do not want to digress into that here. Most people seem to get what I meant. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 22:15
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    "digital computer revolution" was not social progress, it was technological. You seem to have made a lot of effort to justify your question, instead of very tiny effort required to find the uses for operational amplifiers. This is called "trolling", not "curiosity" – Maple Nov 15 '21 at 22:19
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    I do not want to digress into that. I model human society as a human-technology system. Obviously. Anyone gets that technological progress or evolution parallels social and cultural evolution. It's the same thing. This is a non-issue. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 22:21
  • @Justme Butterworth filters require active components. – Miss Mulan Nov 15 '21 at 22:25
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    @Miss Mulan Analog filters, including Butterworth and others, as already pointed out can and have been for years constructed out of only passive components. You need to do more research. – Barry Nov 15 '21 at 23:26
  • They continue to be common in analog electronics. The simplest example is probably a unity gain buffer: high input impedance and low output impedance. In any case, proof that they remain popular is the fact that supply houses (Digi-Key, Mouser, ...) continue to offers thousands of different varieties. – Supa Nova Nov 16 '21 at 00:31
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    I'm wondering if OP did not realize "operational amplifiers" are now called "op-amps". Obviously googling "op-amp" gets you a billion hits. But googling "operational amplifier" would get you those esoteric and historical links. That's the only reason I can see for this question. – Kyle B Nov 16 '21 at 07:03
  • They are useful in *all kinds* of analog circuits... – user253751 Nov 16 '21 at 10:39
  • @KyleB the question isn’t that hard to get, is asks about the niche when digital calculations seem to have replaced most of niche for analog ones. this question was similar, https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/182773, and obviously if you already know how widely used op amps are and why then it makes no sense to ask about it yes – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 22:07
  • @Doge Hi friend. No, I did understand your question. You're asking if OpAmps are being used today to actually perform mathematical operations. Based on that, I only guessed that you are a mathematician learning about operational amplifiers, not an electronics engineer. If you were an EE, you'd not ask this question (or you better not... that would be like an EE asking what a battery is). – Kyle B Nov 16 '21 at 23:42
  • continue: But if you are mathematician, or maybe a student or whatever, you may have heard the word "Operational Amplifier" but not know EE's call it "op amp" so you could not easily google it to find the answers! You can't google something you don't know what it is called! So I was DEFENDING your question.... IT IS A GOOD ONE. Unless, like I said... you're already an EE... then you really should know about OpAmps... There is at least one in almost every modern gadget! – Kyle B Nov 16 '21 at 23:44
  • @Kyle B I was mostly wondering if they are such a big deal as they seemed to be from some sources, or more historically interesting. I know they are called op amps. The calculation angle is just that I prefer to learn things using evolution, and they originated for calculations. I conceptually get digital electronics but op amp type electronics is very new to me. – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 23:48
  • @KyleB To me, from the content I'd already seen, it was good at repeating "they are this or that" but not their place in the actual world. That they used to be used for "analogue computers" was repeated. I definitely understand why "analogue computers" using op amps was really good before normal computers became ubiquitous. I did not understand what op amps were good for these days. Since I knew they were important historically, but not why today, I phrased it "are they still important or mostly historically" and I get that this seemed strange or "woke" to those who use them every day... – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 23:56
  • I like computers, they were used for computers, that was historical and in the 1930s, 40s, 50s and 60s, and now they are used for something else, thus the phrasing “what are they used for today or are the mostly important historically" i.e., the phrasing is aligned with me being interested in computers. – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 23:59

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Here are some applications I've seen in the past year just off the top of my head:

Current sense amplifiers, A/D input buffering, active filtering, DAC output buffering, transimpedance amplifiers for photodiodes, summing amplifiers, differential amplifiers, level shifters and scaling amplifiers, integrators, differentiators, general purpose signal buffering/amplifying, all kinds of audio amplification or pre-amplification, communications processing, voltage reference or artificial ground buffering, oscillators, and analog servo or control systems.

I'm sure there are some I'm leaving out, but you can see that they're not as niche as vacuum tubes (valves).

What are the alternatives to op-amps in these applications? You could possibly do some of this digitally with a microcontroller/DSP with built-in A/D (which would likely have an internal amplifier for the A/D) but could be 10x the cost of the op-amp. You could also build an amplifier from discrete transistors, at 10X the effort and complexity (and probably worse performance) than using an op-amp.

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    Anything that requires negative feedback really. They are basically negative-feedback pre-packaged for you. – DKNguyen Nov 15 '21 at 22:15
  • @DKNguyen Good way to look at it. I also like to think of it as a pre-packaged transfer function of Vin(differential) times A/(1+st), where A is large, at least for dominant-pole compensated amplifiers. – John D Nov 15 '21 at 22:31
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    You might be a little too optimistic about emulating an op-amp using discretes. ;-) Accurate temperature compensation is next to impossible without the transistors being right next to each other on the same die, and the offset is also nearly guaranteed to be higher with discretes (without lots of part binning and intricate trimming). – TooTea Nov 16 '21 at 08:07
  • @TooTea Sure, but it’s possible. Philbrick did it for years before monolithic op-amps were available. And depending on the application you may not need tight specs. But my point was it’s not something you normally want to do when you can get a high performance op-amp for very little cost. – John D Nov 16 '21 at 12:26
  • @TooTea For me as a noob, the economic/manufacturing point of view, that it could be done using less functionality but is not really cheaper, is really good explanation. Op amps are a general purpose component, here was another person who found it a bit hard to see just why they were so popular, https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/182773. I now looked a bit more at what op amps consist of, and combining a differential amplifier with ability to recursively increase or decrease an input, seems like pretty smart basis for lots of things, if(x – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 23:04
  • I liked @DKNguyens feedback on this question. But what is meant with negative feedback in this context? The "op amp" (that I for some reason want to learn about now) seems to be a differential amplifier, and ability to connect output to either input, and either increase, decrease, or do nothing, with voltage on input. This seems pretty smart. This feedback seems to be both positive and negative or nothing. So I assume you mean something else. – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 23:32
  • @Doge The issue is you are looking at the diff amp as a black box, not the stuff inside it. If you look at the component parts such as an opamp implementation of the diff amp you will find negative feedback. Negative feedback just means the output is fed back to the input so it opposes the output, – DKNguyen Nov 17 '21 at 14:59
  • I’m not looking at it as a black box, and the output seems like it can be fed back to input to do opposite of oppose it, positive feedback. Why I ask what the negative feedback is more specifically. – Doge Nov 17 '21 at 19:27
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An alternative view is that analog computers haven't disappeared; they have simply become so ubiquitous we no longer notice them.

If you need a gain of 4 between a sensor and an ADC, you no longer design a transistor circuit to provide a gain of 4; you simply throw in an analog computer "programmed" by external resistors to multiply its input by 4 : job done, with no regrets about using such a powerful machine for such a trivial task.

The same has happened to digital computers : if you want to control a motor or even just blink a light, you may simply throw in a PIC or AVR with a trivial program and think nothing more about it.

  • ah good view. Have understood op amps technically now, and a diff amp, and ability to connect output to input, and throw in resistors that differ by 4, is, I guess, necessary to multiply a signal by 4, minimal components needed, and that seems go be what defines ”op amp” at most minimal scale. a diff amp pretty much, plus combined with a different voltage source to output regulated by diff amp output. – Doge Nov 17 '21 at 19:40
  • basically after creating what is needed to multiply signal x times, you have an ”op amp” (no?) but same thing can also do other things. – Doge Nov 17 '21 at 19:56
  • No : after you have given it a gain of X, you have an amplifier with a gain of X. The opamp is the component at the heart of it; a block of pure gain with infinite input impedance (well, approximately!) uncommitted to actual gain, integration, differentiating, filtering, etc. Like a PIC before you program it. –  Nov 17 '21 at 21:01
  • yes but making another type of amplifier with gain X, the op amp seems to be the minimal components needed to sense how much to gain input, but I might misunderstand that. seemed to explain why it is so important for that particular use case, that diff amp + output fed back was minimum to "know" that – Doge Nov 17 '21 at 21:06
  • The opamp itself has no feedback (just as the PIC you buy has no program). You add the feedback (usually negative, but positive in an oscillator) as part of the programming that defines its function. The bare chip is the opamp : the circuit with NFB defined by R,C etc is what I would call a (possibly trivial) analog computer. (The autohelm on my boat is a PID controller implemented on an LM324) –  Nov 17 '21 at 21:11
  • I know. You have to add a little wire and resistors. Like you wrote in answer. But besides that, I was assuming that to get x times gain, you need the "regulatory" mechanism that diff amp used as in op amp gets. If it can be done much easier way with arbitrary input voltage, then seems like it would not be as favourable to use op amp. – Doge Nov 17 '21 at 21:15
  • Again, the resistors ARE the regulatory mech ( e.g. gain = 1 + R2/R1). It seems there is something getting lost in translation somewhere, I don't understand the point you have been trying to make. –  Nov 17 '21 at 21:21
  • Well, they are too, but, you need the diff amp as well, that is what brings output to difference between inputs. That, seems like it must be easiest way to do that. And you can add different resistors in external circuit on top yes to define how much gain. – Doge Nov 17 '21 at 21:22
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One indication that the premise is incorrect is that the number of individual models of op-amps has proliferated far beyond what was available in (say) 1970. Also, if you look at what is available in inventory as a proxy for sales, some models such as LM324 or OPA363 are available off-the-shelf in quantities well over \$10^6\$ units, even in North America. There are over 10,000 variations (which include packaging and temperature range and grade minor variations) at Digikey, for example.

In 1970 there were likely closer to 1/50 of the variations available, and the performance was not as good as now.

Op-amps are so commonly required in conjunction with MCUs that some include a crude CMOS op-amp or two on the chip. Any kind of precision measurement or control equipment will likely have a number of op-amps.

That said, high-volume consumer and such like applications tend to have mixed signal ASICs developed that absorb the analog circuitry into the chip, for example signal conditioning and ADC chips for weigh scales, temperature sensors, controllers for motion detector lamps and such like. Invariably they have inferior performance in one way or another to what is possible with discrete op-amps but they are good enough for many practical applications, so there is a grain of truth in your premise.

The total market breadth has expanded so much that I suspect there is a large net gain both in units and in dollars, but unfortunately such information is not easily available for free (for ~$4,000 US you can buy a report that is limited to a few well-known suppliers and does not cover all markets). You certainly have an embarrassment of riches when you go looking for an amplifier for a given task.

They are generally not used as analog computers- they are used for signal conditioning (filtering, amplification, anti-alias filtering prior to digitizing, reconstruction filtering post conversion from digital to analog, buffering, and so on). Those functions generally have to be done in the analog domain so there is no way to absorb them into digital processing, even if the latter is practical.

There's a (perhaps weak) analogy with logic chips where small-scale logic chips such as gates and buffers are extremely widely used but more complex functions such as ALUs have limited applications and thus availability because nobody is building processors from MSI logic anymore. But if you want 3.8 million NAND gate chips off the shelf, no problem. There are more logic families available, but unlike op-amps, not so much in the way of variations, because analog is like that.

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    I guess if I rephrase it a bit: are they popular because of their property to be able to do numerical calculations, as they were originally designed for by John Ragazzini in 1947 who also coined their name in 1947, or, did they have some other property, necessary for but unrelated to the calculation ability, that was "co-opted" to be really useful? Do you understand how I mean? A device that produced exact numerical calculations must have had very different constraints than just a standard amplifier for just amplifying signals. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 23:02
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    @Doge That property is high but poorly controlled gain combined with negative feedback which reduces the gain to a known and well controlled value dominated by the components in the circuit rather than the gain of the actual opamp itself. Because it's tough to make transistors with well-controlled gains, but it is easy to just make transistors with gains that are a very large but loose number. – DKNguyen Nov 15 '21 at 23:03
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    The property is that they can deal with signals precisely- low DC error, low distortion, low amplification errors and so on. We need to deal with signals precisely fairly often, either for measurement or because distortion affects the signal in unacceptable ways. As DK says, the feedback, precision differential inputs and enormous open-loop gain make all that possible. The low offset is important in many applications- it's part of the reason why Norton amplifiers (eg. LM3900) never really caught on. – Spehro Pefhany Nov 15 '21 at 23:04
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    @DKNguyen That sounds like something like what I am looking for. I like to learn using the big picture. And being able to isolate what "operational amplifiers" are used for, vs what they were invented for, seems like easiest way to dissect that concept. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 23:04
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    Is the circuitry needed for the calculations the exact same as the circuitry needed for that preciseness? Otherwise, it seems to me that packaging all the capacity of an op amp into just getting precision, seems a bit overkill, unless you more or less get it for free when taking the exactness property. Assuming the "co-option" point of view here, and assuming that op amps are not primarily used for calculations as they were originally invented for. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 23:10
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    @Doge I mean, if I go 1+1, I expect it to be 2 every time. Without fail. So yeah, you could say you want calculations to be precise because precise means repeatable (not exact). You have to take into account the effort that this would require with discrete transistors. Then it won't seem like overkill. If you look at the machinery that goes into making toilet paper, that would also seem like overkill until you consider how often and widely it is used and how much effort it actually takes to make one-offs. – DKNguyen Nov 15 '21 at 23:11
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    @DKNguyen Yes I get that, and also good point. But my impression so far is that they are generally not used for actual calculations, but for something else. And if that is true (I might misunderstand it), there must be a reason why they still pack all the capacity to calculate, instead of having a chip optimized just for whatever else it is good for. And one explanation for that is that the calculation part is a small part of the precision part and takes up so little space anyway. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 23:15
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    Doing calculations is not necessarily easy with op-amps. For example, Vout = V1*V2, cannot be done with just op-amps and resistors. – Spehro Pefhany Nov 15 '21 at 23:19
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    @Doge Generally with analog approaches you don't directly implement the mathematically abstract principles as you do in digital electronics. In digital you might directly go 1+1 in the process of some other end goal, but in analog you might just step around that 1+1 and do something more directly conducive to your end goal. – DKNguyen Nov 15 '21 at 23:23
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    The op amp comparator for triggering things when reach threshhold also makes sense based on original use for op amps. The logical comparator operation is basic for all computation. If "op amp" is selected for there, it must be easier to manufacture the "general purpose" op amp and use it for comparison, than to manufacture something specialized for just comparison. Maybe like you said with toilet paper analogy. The answers here should give me something to go by when trying to understand that. – Doge Nov 15 '21 at 23:31
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As mentioned in Spehro Pefhany's answer, high volume electronic devices can commonly be simplified to use operational amplifiers. Op amps are still an attractive option because they are extremely cheap. When priced for volume manufacturing, you can get them at 20 to 30 cents apiece.

I designed automotive sensors for a few years, and it is surprising how many small sensors on your car use an op-amp paired with a cheap microcontroller. Typically, low cost automotive grade micros have poor analog performance, and most transducers such as temperature, pressure, and airflow have very low signal levels. For this reason you need to use an op-amp, or even 3 op amps combined in a configuration called an instrumentation amp. This allows you to take a very small signal (say, 0 to 40mV, typical for temperature sensors) and convert it to a range the microcontroller can quantize (usually 0 to 5V).

For automotive sensors, cost optimization usually gives you a substantial competitive edge. To displace an existing vendor for a large automotive manufacturer, you almost always have to come in at a lower price. Using pricey DSPs and fast microcontrollers is not an option. Some products require creative solutions by working in extremely tight cost requirements, where shaving off 10s of cents per unit can make or break the project.

If you were to take apart sensors like your MAF, O2, or exhaust temp sensors, you would definitely find an op amp in there.

  • Thanks for answer. Their design with a differential amplifier first and the connecting output back to one input, is pretty smart. I understand why the ”are they more inportant historically” angle upset a few people, but ”calculating on voltages” was not something I could see exactly when or where it is used. Saw another question here from someone who seemed to have similar thoughts, https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/182773. – Doge Nov 16 '21 at 19:25
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Basically, an opamp is:

  1. an input stage with low offset
  2. followed by a ton of gain
  3. a low impedance output stage to drive loads

This makes it a bit like a Swiss Army Knife, able to implement lots of different functions based on what kind of feedback circuit the user choses. In addition, if the correct opamp is selected for the job, tolerances on the opamp's internal parameters don't influence tolerances on resulting gain and transfer function that much: it mostly depends on feedback components.

The original opamps from 1947 were implemented as discrete circuits, now they are all ICs. For an IC, cost is determined by silicon area and process, plus some fixed costs for packaging, and all logistics from the factory to the finished board. For cheap components, logistics becomes an important part of the price, and that also includes inventory management, the number of reels on the pick and place machine, how many parts it has to place on the board, etc. So if the choice is between a 5-10c opamp like LM358 and a circuit based on a couple BJTs and passives, the opamp could be cheaper even if it's overkill.

For example, to amplify/filter an analog signal, you'd have several choices. You could use an opamp, or an "gain block" IC that really is an opamp with internal feedback resistors, or a different circuit made of one or a few transistors. If you use discretes to implement an opamp, I'd still count that as an opamp.

If you don't want to use an opamp but instead, say, a common emitter BJT, then you lose feature #1: low input offset. Instead the offset becomes 1 Vbe, which is huge and temperature dependent. Not a problem for AC signals, but a big problem for DC signals. So you might want to use a matched monolithic transistor pair. But because everyone is using opamps, there is very low demand on this product, which means that'll cost five bucks. For this price you can get a complete opamp with the same (or better) characteristics. The emitter follower amplifier only makes sense to use at high frequency where opamps lose their edge.

Now if you want tolerances on your transfer function to depend mostly on passive components and not semiconductor tolerances, which are much wider, then you need a lot of gain for feedback and to reduce distortion. This means you're basically reimplementing an opamp with topologies like active load or folded cascode, which require at least 2 transistors in addition to the input and output stages, but most likely 2-5 transistors, plus a lot of passives and 2 current sources. Just the inventory management and pick&place cost for that makes it more expensive than a cheap opamp, not to mention board area, etc.

In addition, it is difficult to make high bandwidth feedback circuits with discretes. If you want say 50-100MHz gain-bandwidth product, then the much smaller parasitic L and C inside an integrated circuit really matter to get low pahase shift and good phase margin, so you'll end up with an opamp again. In addition, with modern processes, manufacturers can put really good/fast transistors on their chips, that would be really hard to beat with discretes.

However, and ironically, DSP has mostly displaced opamps from the "operational" job: when the signal is available in digital form, then it is much cheaper and more convenient to process it in the digital domain. So if you have a signal processing chain, and if there is some digital processing in the middle, you'll still usually get opamps for signal conditioning at the beginning and output filtering at the end, but over the years the DSP block in the middle has been growing and replacing most analog circuits around it.

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op-amps are the basic building block of modern low-frequency analog circuitry. Even when used as basic amplifiers they offer.

  • Customizable, stable and repeatable gains set with only a couple of easily calculated resistors.
  • Easy DC coupling.
  • High input impedance when used in non-inverting configurations.

All of these properties are difficult to achieve with simple amplifiers built around discrete transistors.

Stablity and repeatability are what make the difference between circuits that have to be adjusted before leaving the production line and then adjusted again periodically in service and circuits that do not. Adjustment of analog circuitry is expensive in multiple ways, cost of the components, space taken up by the components and technician time to perform the adjustments. Many precision systems nowadays will do what adjustment they need to do digially, but that only works if the analog side is somewhere in the right ball park.

Op-amps also form the basic building block for more complex amplifier designs. For example the "instrumentation amplifier" built out of 3 op-amps offers a differential amplifier with a high gain, high input impedance and a high common mode rejection.

While no-one builds analog computers anymore we still build simpler analog circuits and we still want to connect our digital computers to the outside world. Generally the inputs of our ADCs and the outputs of our DACs are not suitable for direct connection to the outside world.

And then there are filters. An unfiltered ADC will suffer from aliasing, where multiple input frequencies produce the same result. If an ADC has a sampling frequency of say 1MHz, then a 400kHz sinewave and a 600kHz sinewave will be indistinguisable in the output. On the other side an unfiltered DAC will produce undesirable "staircase" waveforms in it's output.

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There is nothing supernatural about op-amps. They are just very high quality differential amplifiers and nothing else.

Op-amps do not perform mathematical operations; they are performed by the passive elements connected in the negative feedback. Op-amps only help them to be perfect. Here are some examples:

  • In an op-amp summing amplifier, a passive resistor summer sums the input voltages.
  • In an op-amp integrator, an RC circuit integrates the input voltage.
  • In an op-amp log converter, a passive RD log converter does the log conversion.
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  • Actually, it's the whole circuit configuration, with op-amp and passives that do the calculations. The passives don't really do the calculations themselves either. – Justme Jan 23 '23 at 22:13
  • @Justme, Why not? An RC circuit integrates, CR circuit differentiates, RD circuit logarithmizes, DR circuit antilogarithmizes, etc. – Circuit fantasist Jan 23 '23 at 22:29
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    An inverting op-amp circuit does not invert without the op-amp. And you get no amplitude gain (inverting or non-inverting) either. The external components define what the whole circuit with the amplifier then performs. – Justme Jan 23 '23 at 22:42
  • @Justme, Exactly... The almighty op-amp serves the humble passive circuit:-) – Circuit fantasist Jan 23 '23 at 22:47