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I am doing a hydroponics project at school. For this I need to make a circuit for a Ph sensor, I was going crazy looking and I found only one that did not really work for me, I will add photos. The voltages do not give me as they should give me Where I got the schematic from is here: Building a pH meter circuit - is it feasible? Abe Karplus did answer.

enter image description here By the way, I didn't use the op amp that this man used. I used a UA741CP.

Then I used the same scheme that that man came up with to use in proteus and then make the board. enter image description here enter image description here

And this is how I got the board: enter image description here enter image description here

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    The 741 opamp will not work for this project. Its design is 53 years old and its datasheet shows only a 30V supply, but a few might work with a 10V supply. Its input bias current is 125 thousand times higher than the Cmos opamp in the original circuit. Its output does not go anywhere near ground or the positive supply. – Audioguru Oct 03 '21 at 00:26
  • If you have limited access to components... Do you have a catalog of some sort of the components that are available? – polwel Oct 07 '21 at 07:04

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You need to use an opamp with low input bias current -- the LMC662 is suitable. Also a '741 doesn't have very good input or output common-mode voltage range and so may not work so well with just a 5 V supply.

since your board is laid out, a LMC662 won't fit in the same pinout. A TL071 or similar will however work. It is also available in an 8-pin PDIP package.

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  • The minimum supply for a TL071 is 7V or 10V. Its inputs and output are not rail-to-rail. It is almost obsolete (the TL072 dual for stereo) is obsolete today. – Audioguru Oct 03 '21 at 00:31
  • So should I or should I not use an LMC662? Is the pcb layout well connected? – Octavio Bottari Oct 03 '21 at 01:35
  • The pcb is designed for a single opamp. The LM662 is a dual opamp that needs to have its unused opamp disabled and its positive pin is on a different pin than a single opamp. Find a single Cmos opamp. – Audioguru Oct 03 '21 at 02:39
  • @Audioguru can you give me more information? i really need to fix this board, it's for a project in my school. I'm using a ESP8266 with the ADC pin, and now i'm confuse, i read that this circuit use positive and negative voltage, the ADC pin can't use negative voltage. It's true that my circuite use positive and negative voltage? – Octavio Bottari Oct 03 '21 at 15:36
  • So I think that i have 2 problems, the amp op and the negative voltage. – Octavio Bottari Oct 03 '21 at 15:37
  • your common-mode input V is 5*100k/(100k+330k) = 1.16 V. This is actually too low for TL071. You should be able to change the 330k to 100k and move the common-mode V to 2.5 V. TL071 CAN operate from a 5 V supply (4.5 V min). If you do use another opamp, look for a 'modern' one -- it will have need input leakage (pA, nA); operate from less than 5 V. – jp314 Oct 03 '21 at 18:01
  • So changing the resistor of 330k to 100k and the opamp to TL071, should the circuit work? – Octavio Bottari Oct 03 '21 at 22:35
  • Use a modern Cmos (extremely low input bias current), rail-to-rail single opamp. – Audioguru Oct 04 '21 at 16:38
  • I'm from argentina, it's impossible to get electronic components of that style, that's why i'm looking for another way :/ – Octavio Bottari Oct 06 '21 at 11:47
  • I expect that 330k -> 100k will work. Can you get ICs by Maxim Integrated ? – jp314 Oct 06 '21 at 17:55
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This is what Texas instruments say about their TL071 opamp:TL071

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  • The datasheet actually says "Wide supply voltage: ±2.25", and most specs are guaranteed from 4.5 V, but I agree that another opamp could be better. – jp314 Oct 04 '21 at 18:15
  • So i have to change my opamp to TL071 and my circuit should work? – Octavio Bottari Oct 05 '21 at 21:11
  • The new datasheet has two versions of the TL071 opamp. There is the older TL071 one that has a recommended minimum supply of 10V and a recommended input common mode voltage of+4V when there is no negative supply, and the new TL071H that has a recommended minimum supply of 4.5V and a recommended input common mode voltage of +2V when there is no negative supply. The old one is in many packages but the new one is in only surface mount packages. – Audioguru Oct 05 '21 at 23:51
  • @Audiogurú and what is the problem if i use a LMC662 like the schematic say? It has 8 pins – Octavio Bottari Oct 06 '21 at 11:49
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Your pcb is designed for a single opamp. the dual opamp has different pin numbers for its + power supply and for the output of its first opamp. Also the second opamp in the dual opamp must be disabled. You must find a Cmos single opamp.

Here are the differences in their pins: opamps

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