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The common pattern to run long LED strips seems to use separate transformers and amplifiers in between the individual strips. Why not use a single transformer, controller and appropriately thick cables to wire the strips in parallel? Given a certain thickness (>1mm), the power loss for runs within a single room seem to be insignificant...

Michael
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    Possible duplicate of [Why exactly can't a single resistor be used for many parallel LEDs?](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/22291/why-exactly-cant-a-single-resistor-be-used-for-many-parallel-leds) – TonyM Sep 10 '19 at 19:42
  • Can you clarify your use of "amplifier"? I can't see how an [electronic amplifier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplifier) is applicable here since there is no signal to amplify. Do you perhaps mean a power supply or a DC/DC converter? – Heath Raftery Sep 10 '19 at 20:25
  • https://www.ecolocityled.com/category/led_tutorials_single_sigamp – Michael Sep 10 '19 at 20:59

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Actually, people power RGB LED strips in parallel all the time. In fact, simply by using an RGB LED strip, you're wiring the LEDs in parallel, as all of those strips are just a bunch of parallel connected RGB LEDs with their own current limiting resistors (which is the important feature that lets them be safely connected this way). More accurately, they tend to be groups of 3 or 5 LEDs that share a set of current limiting resistors - hence why you can only cut the strips at every 3rd (or whatever the grouping is) LED. But every cuttable 'unit' is already wired in parallel.

So what that means is there is no difference electrically to powering however many strips of whatever arbitrary lengths in parallel vs. one giant strip with the same total number of LEDs. They're already connected in parallel anyway.

As long as your power supply can handle the load, you can wire LED strips up to it in parallel and it should 'just work'.

I don't know why exactly you think people don't do this, as in my experience this is done whenever it is warranted.

I think the main reason you see strips in series and using amplifiers so much is that, often, one of the main aspects of LED strips is the distance being covered. If you have a 5 meter LED strip, in many cases, one end of the strip is going to be roughly 5 meters away, or somewhat less depending on how they're being used. If you need to continue this length beyond 5 meters, to do it in parallel, you now have to run 5 meters of extra wiring.

This could very quickly get out of hand. You now have to find a way to run all these extra wires, and it might not look very nice, and greatly complicates things vs. just having series connected strips without any wires, except for a short length and a locally positioned power supply for it.

But if you had 3 5 meter strips that all begin at roughly the same spot, then in that case it would definitely be preferable to wire them in parallel - and as far as I know, people do do this when the setup allows and with great success.

All of this is strictly in the context of regular, 'dumb' RGB LED strips. In the case of addressable LED strips, things are different. Addressable LED strips are powered in parallel, but they have a serial data bus connected such that each LED has an input and an output, and they relay the signal from one LED to the next, almost like a fire bucket brigade, only instead of water, its bits.

You can still power addressable strips in parallel, but you must connect the third data wire in series to retain full functionality. Again, this can quickly become a pain due to the extra wiring.

Alternatively, if you don't mind that each addressable strip will have identical behavior and show exactly the same pattern as the other strips connected in parallel, you can connect the data line in parallel just like the power connections. If you do this however, you lose any ability to control the strips independently. They will always mirror the other strips (assuming they are the same length).

Note: You should observe the same guidelines for cutting LED strips regardless of how they are going to be wired/connected. Only cut where the strip indicates it can be cut. This ensures each group of LEDs has current limiting resistors.

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  • That's why I said "long strips". Instead of running some wiring for every 5m segment (single two conductor), most guides run a signal pair from the controller (dimmer) to an amplifier (sometimes they call it a repeater) powered by its own power supply. So it's still a whole bunch of cabling and it's entirely unclear to me why it would be needed, unless the power consumption and cable length are large enough to cause large voltage drops... – Michael Sep 10 '19 at 21:08
  • There is a slight difference between wiring many in parallel and “one giant strip”. The traces on LED strips can’t handle a large amount of current (thus limiting total length), but even relatively thin 20AWG wire can be used to wire the strips in parallel. – David Sep 10 '19 at 22:15
  • Sure! In parallel meaning the wiring, not the strips. The total length of a strip is limited by the inherent resistance within the strip itself, making long runs impossible. But instead of using a new power supply every 5m/16ft, wouldn't it be easier to run power along with the strips? – Michael Sep 11 '19 at 07:29
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Why not use a single transformer, controller and appropriately thick cables to wire the strips in parallel? Given a certain thickness (>1mm), the power loss for runs within a single room seem to be insignificant...

Watts = Volts x Amps, so the current and wire size required to deliver a certain amount of power with minimal voltage drop is much larger at 12V or 24V than at 110V or 230V, and that thick cable has to be run all the way from the power source. Where will you put the cable? Not in the LED strip channel because there isn't room. Not alongside it as that would be unsightly. That leaves in the ceiling or under the floor, which makes for a difficult installation.

But let's say you don't mind seeing the extra cable or crawling through the ceiling to get it to the destination - just how much larger does it need to be to eliminate visible loss? The human eye is very sensitive to intensity variations, and the strips have multiple LEDs in series so they are quite sensitive to voltage drop. So to achieve 'insignificant' power loss the current has to be much lower than the ampacity of the cable. Therefore the cable needs to be oversized. A typical LED strip may draw several Amps - your cable might need to be rated for tens or even hundreds of Amps to match the output voltage of a local controller.

However the room probably already has multiple mains power points that can be tapped into to supply additional LED drivers. So now you don't need to run a long thick cable to each remote LED strip, and each strip gets full voltage from a local power supply so it has the same brightness. The only problem is how to operate them all from a single location. LED 'amplifiers' or 'repeaters' solve this problem.

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