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Ill try to be as brief as possible. TL;DR: How to use my 3A 5V USB-C charger to power a dumb device that needs 5V 3A to run.

My goal: I want to have a nightstand, that can charge 3 devices at the same time. Doesn't matter how fast.

What I have done so far is, made a board, set out 3 pairs of + and - , to each port that will have a wire connecting to the phone I'll need to charge.

I have a USB-C receptacle (which I am going to attach to my wires) and a USB-C cable. I am going to use an Anker charger (5V 3A output).

I did some research on USB-C and it's very complicated, CC pins and 5.1k ohms resistance and what not.

I am used to old USB cables in which I would just connect VCC and GND and it would supply power.

My question is: Can I just connect wires from the USB-C receptacle VBus and GND pins and it will work and provide the 5V 3A output just like those old cables? Or do I need those pull up and pull down resistors and all that complex stuff which I have no idea what they are.

Please go easy on me as I am new to the world of using USB-C and I want to use it.

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There are few caveats in your project. First, if the Anker charger is true Type-C charger, it won't output VBUS until it will see 5.1k pull-down from your Type-C receptacle. So you must provide two pull downs, on CC1 and CC2 pins, before you will see any power.

Second, as soon as you signal to the charger that some consumer is connected, the charger will output VBUS, but it is your device responsibility to limit its intake to 3 A. Since you will have three devices downwards, and each device might take 1.5 to 3 A each, you might be running into overload, or some odd unstable behavior. So this would be your nightstand responsibility to provide charging signatures to your devices such that they don't take total more than 3A. Usual smartphones can customary take 1.5A, so there will be troubles if all three would start charging at max rate.

The easiest way to limit consumption is "no signature" on downstream ports, when D+/D- are floating, not connected. Then some devices will understand this as a standard USB port, and will limit their consumption to 500 mA. This is obviously not very optimal, and some phones might refuse the input at all. For better charging experience the multi-port charger must have some intelligence, which is a fairly broad topic.

Third, a Type-C receptacle is a very tiny device with pin pitch of 0.5 mm. It will be quite challenging just to attach wires to it, usually it requires a fine PCB with proper fan-out.

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  • First of all, Thank you so much for answering. I really do appreciate it. – Shah Jul 02 '19 at 15:44
  • I knew it would be challenging, so I just made a PCB for it. its just 2$ for 10 pcbs so why not? Im in no hurry either. I uploaded the pcb picture to imgur ( https://imgur.com/TWk7OxO ), can you give it a look and see if it will suffice? – Shah Jul 02 '19 at 15:45
  • I used bigger copper traces so it would not heat up with the 3A,added two usb ports for my usb night light (its just collecting dust so i might as well use it) In my head this should work as a normal device – Shah Jul 02 '19 at 15:49
  • Oh and the R1 R2 are 5.1K on CC1 and CC2 Pins, and connected to ground. I studied the USB C data sheet, and it said you need to Connect all the VBUS and the GND together before spanning out, Is what i did here correct? And again, thank you so much! Im a student of electrical engineering and just trying to learn all these practical things. – Shah Jul 02 '19 at 15:52