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I usually try to do some research before asking questions on this site, but everything I've found has been contradictory.

If I were to direct the positive and negative ends of a 9 volt battery through open wounds on either of my hands, allowing the electricity to travel through my bloodstream and presumably past my heart, would it kill me? What if I were able to let go as soon as I felt the shock?

Aidan
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  • OK, having researched this, you've certainly already found estimates for the resistance of the human body; apply these, figure out how much current flows, question answered. – Marcus Müller Mar 09 '19 at 22:57
  • I've found lots of different data from my research. Also, I don't know if touching it for a fraction of a second would kill. – Aidan Mar 09 '19 at 22:59
  • Listing a few of your sources would help. – Marcus Müller Mar 09 '19 at 23:00
  • I've read that the resistance of blood can be anywhere between 200 to 1000 Ohms, I'm assuming depending mainly on distance? At 9 volts couldn't those numbers make the difference between severe burns and death? – Aidan Mar 09 '19 at 23:03
  • "I've read" <-- where. *Cite your sources*. Learn to work with your sources, contextualize them, assess their quality. The answer to your question is not being the 200th person to ask the question with slightly different parameters (e.g. with 9V instead of 12V. There's a 12V question on this site already), but to *understand* under which circumstances electricity is lethal. – Marcus Müller Mar 09 '19 at 23:03
  • [link]https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-electrical-resistance-of-human-body [link]http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1902Natur..66..127T – Aidan Mar 09 '19 at 23:05
  • please edit your question to include these links and the specific things you'd quote from them. – Marcus Müller Mar 09 '19 at 23:06
  • neither sources are appropriate – the first *explains* that you'd only need to look at the *internal resistance* of the human body, but doesn't put a number to it, the second looks at blood as material, but the human body is only to a small percentage (6L of much, much more) made out of blood. – Marcus Müller Mar 09 '19 at 23:08
  • Ok, thank you, I'll do some more research next time before I ask – Aidan Mar 09 '19 at 23:09
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    A 9V battery is sufficiently large to block any artery... – Solar Mike Mar 09 '19 at 23:12
  • I have read authorative papers (which I may be able to locate but Garglabet is usually faster than me) that state that IF you get currents onto the heart surface then much much much much much ... lower than usually stated currents can kill. Say 10's to 100's of uA range. ... Here we go : [Electrical Safety in the Operating Room: Dry Versus Wet](https://journals.lww.com/anesthesia-analgesia/pages/articleviewer.aspx?year=2010&issue=06000&article=00001&type=Fulltext) ... – Russell McMahon Mar 10 '19 at 11:56
  • ... Microshock refers to very small currents (as little as 10–50 μA) and applies only to the electrically susceptible patient, such as an individual who has an internal conduit that is in direct contact with the heart. This conduit can be a pacing wire or a saline-filled central venous or pulmonary artery catheter. In the electrically susceptible patient, even minute amounts of current (10 μA) may cause ventricular fibrillation. – Russell McMahon Mar 10 '19 at 11:56
  • Once started ventricular fibrillation may well not stop without external action - electro shock - whose purpose is NOT to supply a heart start signal but to FULLY STOP the fibrillation signals so that the normal heart waveforms can re-establish. – Russell McMahon Mar 10 '19 at 11:58

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IF you get cause currents in the 10's of microamps range onto the actual surface of the heart death can occur.

This paper makes that statement Electrical Safety in the Operating Room: Dry Versus Wet and my recollection is that the writer has come to specialise in establishing best safety practices in that area.

He says:

  • Microshock refers to very small currents (as little as 10–50 μA) and applies only to the electrically susceptible patient, such as an individual who has an internal conduit that is in direct contact with the heart. This conduit can be a pacing wire or a saline-filled central venous or pulmonary artery catheter. In the electrically susceptible patient, even minute amounts of current (10 μA) may cause ventricular fibrillation.

Once started ventricular fibrillation will often not stop without external action - usually very high magnitude electric shock - whose purpose is NOT to supply a heart start signal but to FULLY STOP the fibrillation signals so that the normal heart waveforms can re-establish.

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This question stems from the rumor that some navy tech wanted to test the conductivity of their body so they pushed the meter beneath their skin and got electrocuted. (at least the version I heard, I'm sure there are many variants by now.)

Yes, it can, it only takes 10-20mA to stop a human heart. A 9V battery can provide much more than that. Your skin has sufficient resistance that it can stop current. If the skin is broken the resistance drops significantly. The current must be across the heart.

Offhand it would seem that a shock of 10,000 volts would be more deadly than 100 volts. But this is not so! Individuals have been electrocuted by appliances using ordinary house currents of 110 volts and by electrical apparatus in industry using as little as 42 volts direct current. The real measure of shock's intensity lies in the amount of current (amperes) forced though the body, and not the voltage. Any electrical device used on a house wiring circuit can, under certain conditions, transmit a fatal current.

While any amount of current over 10 milliamps (0.01 amp) is capable of producing painful to severe shock, currents between 100 and 200 mA (0.1 to 0.2 amp) are lethal. Currents above 200 milliamps (0.2 amp), while producing severe burns and unconsciousness, do not usually cause death if the victim is given immediate attention. Resuscitation, consisting of artificial respiration, will usually revive the victim.

From a practical viewpoint, after a person is knocked out by an electrical shock it is impossible to tell how much current has passed through the vital organs of his body. Artificial respiration must be applied immediately if breathing has stopped.

Source: https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/physics/p616/safety/fatal_current.html

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I wrote a new answer that will be more precise after more resarch.

  • The internal resistance of the body from hand to hand will be something like >300ohm
  • I = U/R
  • I = 9V / 300ohm = 30mA

DC current is about 2-4 times less dangerous than AC current because the AC current will cause faster ventricular fibrillation which is often the cause of death from electric shock.

Human body resistance

So what rates are dangerous?

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If I were to direct the positive and negative ends of a 9 volt battery through open wounds on either of my hands, allowing the electricity to travel through my bloodstream and presumably past my heart, would it kill me? What if I were able to let go as soon as I felt the shock?

Applying 9V from your hand to hand directly in your bloodstream would then give 30mA DC which is highly unlikely to kill you.

  • What if you applied the battery straight on your heart?
  • We know the resistance hand to hand is about 300ohms. The length is about 150cm+- and we use 10cm for the heart, reduce to ~20ohms. I = 9V/20 = 450mA. This number would get close to possible heart fibrillation.

While not pleasant it seems that connecting a 9V battery directly to your heart is in the danger zone but not necessarily going to kill you. Connecting a 9V battery however from hand to hand in the bloodstream is highly unlikely to kill you.

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  • Yes. It can. See my answer. – Russell McMahon Mar 10 '19 at 11:58
  • Interesting. It seems that direct contact with the hearth is lethal at 30mA+ then according to your source. However hand to hand shouldn't be – C. K. Mar 10 '19 at 12:14
  • 10-50 MICRO amp. And, yes, hand to hand at 9V is extremely unlikely. People have died with 12V across the chest with good contact. -> Long ago experiment with consenting convict subjects . Death was not expected :-(. I do not have refs. Pre-internet memory. Seems liable to be a valid memory. Validity of actual ref unknown. – Russell McMahon Mar 10 '19 at 23:57
  • @RussellMcMahon yes I said 30mA because that's my calculated approximate value hand to hand. interesting read – C. K. Mar 11 '19 at 15:42
  • Why are the figures for 10 kHz AC not somewhere _between_ 60 Hz AC and DC (= infinity Hz AC)? – Sixtyfive May 08 '21 at 00:07
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"It's the volts that jolts, but the mills that kills"

Roughly speaking, humans can feel voltage (via muscular contraction) but death comes from milliamps of current passing through the sinoatrial node near the heart.

If you could construct a scenario where you could present a conductive path that includes the sinoatrial node, of resistance less than about 90Ω, to the terminals of a 9V battery, then you might have an electrocution risk. The human blood vessel system with wounds at either end is probably not sufficient. But since the 1930's, experiments of this nature have fallen out of favour so the state of the art is really just a lot of extrapolation.

The state of the art is that <120Vdc is low risk in normal circumstances, but you could still come up with a scenario with electrocution risk. Thus <60Vdc is often used as a safer limit in various worldwide standards. Finally, in particular hazardous scenarios like swimming pools (think of underwater lighting), <25Vdc is required to be considered safe.

9V is considerably lower than this already very low limit, so would take some very special circumstances to present an electrocution risk. But I reckon if you worked hard enough at it, you could kill some very unlucky, highly susceptible, high sodium content individual.

To answer your second question: yes, it is possible to let go and save yourself - electrocution only occurs if the shock coincides with a vulnerable phase (about 10%) of the sinus cycle. At 9V the muscular convulsion would not be enough to render you paralysed, so if you're lucky, you might be able to sense the shock and disconnect before the vulnerable period arrives.

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  • I know of a person who was killed by electrocution doing a charging check on a helicopter 28V system in torrential rain. He slipped and grabbed the main busbar. – Peter Smith Mar 10 '19 at 16:27
  • I have a friend (still living) who achieved "total muscle lockup" with 12V from a faulty flounder fishing light while standing in salt water. – Russell McMahon Mar 10 '19 at 23:59
  • @PeterSmith Are you able to provide some sort of reference to the helicopter battery fatality. It would help my discussions elsewhere. – Russell McMahon Nov 12 '22 at 10:23
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Electricity shouldn't be much different if it hits you in a wound or not. It's not traveling on the outside of your skin, outside a wound and then going in only at the wound. A 9v battery shouldn't kill a human though.

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