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I'm building a circuit where a supercapacitor will be charged over wireless energy transfer (basically two coils near each other). This means I can not guarantee the voltage feeding the supercap is within the capacitor's limits, so I have to make a circuit which protects the supercap against dangerously high voltages.

I'm planning on using an op-amp which compares the capacitor's voltage against a voltage reference from a zener diode, which disconnects the supercap from the coil when reaching a limit though a P-type MOSFET.

The op-amp (which is a rail-to-rail type) has its positive supply connected before the MOSFET, to make sure the OP can have a high enough output to completely close the MOSFET. I've also chosen a MOSFET with a high enough turn-on voltage so that the MOSFET will close it even though the op-amp will not quite reach the source voltage. I've included a 1 mF cap (C2) before the MOSFET to smooth out the supply to the op-amp. What do you guys think about the circuit? Will it work?

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mike65535
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Alexander
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  • You may also want to look at this question. https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/486250/what-is-the-best-way-to-balance-supercapacitor-cells-at-700ma-peak-charging-curr – user4574 Jan 31 '21 at 19:05

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If you just need voltage protection, you're essentially trying to build a voltage regulator right?

I modified the schematic from here by making the zener 3 volts (I'm sure that exists somewhere right?) and adding the second zener across the supercap (also 3 volts) for cheap protection and to drain any trickle through the transistor when the supercap is fully charged.

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Kent Altobelli
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The simplest solution is to just use a LDO voltage regulator with an output voltage equal to the voltage you want on your supercap. There are two gotchas though. First, the LDO feedback network will slowly discharge the supercap, so if a current in the µA range is not acceptable, this will not work. Second, LDOs generally don't like being biased from the output when the supply is off, which will happen when the device is taken off the charger, so you'll need a diode across the LDO.

An upgrade would be to use a switching regulator instead, which will be more efficient so it will charge the capacitor faster. You can actually use a switching battery charger IC that will do the output voltage you want, that should limit both the voltage and current to safe values for your cap.

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The circuit does not appear to work.
Consider the situation where the Supercap is at zero volts, and the inbound coupled signal results in U1 supply increasing by charging C2. So far so good. ...the FET is initially off and will begin to turn on only once the supply rail exceeds VGS(th)(though IMO you need a pulldown resistor to ensure this turn on). The turn on level is about 0.6V, far below the operating point of the op-amp. In addition, the op-amp has both inputs at zero volts, though admittedly you only need mV of input signal to start to get a response on the output (once you have sufficient supply).

With both the inputs to the op-amp at zero volts, the op-amp can only provide enough signal to get the FET to conduct (uA - mA) with the output stages biased, the FET will then start to discharge the voltage on C2. Unfortunately the output of the op-amp LT1803 is not in working range below 2V, so what output you get is unknown, and the current through the FET likely only uA.

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  • If I add a pulldown resistor to the gate of the MOSFET and choose a OP with a voltage suppy range above the MOSFET treshold voltage, would'nt the MOSFET then charge the supecap at least a little before the OP reaches the suppyl voltage and hope that the output of the OP is somewhat high impedance before reaching the lower end of its supply range? – Alexander Oct 01 '18 at 20:37