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There is a Lithium Polymer Ion Battery that comes with the Lilypad Development Board from Sparfun. Does anyone know if the battery charges if we plug in the battery to the Lilypad Arduino and connect the Lilypad Arduino using the FTDI at the same time. The battery specifications are in the URL below: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/731

Here is the link to the Arduino Board which takes power via the 6pin FTDI or via a LiPo battery connected to it: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10274

Encore PTL
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  • [Battery datasheet here](http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Batteries/UnionBattery-110mAh.pdf) They say 0.2C std charge = 22 mA !!! and 1C max charge = 110 mA. As Oli says BUT you can charge this with a constant current source of 100 mA or less and a clamp reqgulator that stops battery volotage EVER rising over say 4.1V. Clamp at 4.0V = longer life and about 80% capacity = bargain overall. – Russell McMahon Jul 08 '12 at 06:32

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(1) What Oli says

(2) Battery datasheet here

They say 0.2C std charge = 22 mA !!!
and MAX CHARGE = 1C = 110 mA.

As Oli notes, the LilyPad Simple board has a charger built in.

If desired you can charge this with a constant current source of 100 mA or less and a clamp regulator that stops battery voltage EVER rising over say 4.1V.
Clamp at 4.0V = longer life and about 80% capacity = bargain overall.

For sensible lifetime do not ever discharge under 3.0V.

(3) Why keep a dog and bark yourself?

If you want to build your own Lithium Ion / LiPo charger for up to 500 mA charge rate then using the MCP83831 / MCP83832 charger IC is a very easy and economical way of doing so.
As Oli notes, this is what Sparkfun use in the LilyPad Simple.
Data sheet here

It can literally be as simple as shown in the circuit diagram below.

enter image description here.

The resistor from Vss to Prog sets maximum charging current. Several other options are available by selecting variants of the basic device. Unfortunately 3 different options are selected as a group (see datasheet page 21) providing less flexibility , but the device is still useful and well priced. Options include cell voltage below which charger goes into "precondition" mode, end point current termination level and i_condition / i_charge ratio. My main "complaint" with this IC is that the lowest voltage output level version is 4.2V and higher voltage (and very dangerous) versions are available. Digikey sell 3 different versions (AC, AT, DC) with the AT mainly stopping charging sooner (longer life, lower capacity), while the DC will try to produce 'magic smoke' and 'vent with flame' if a very low voltage battery is charged.

Available in stock from Digikey for $US0.68/1 and $US0.42/100.

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Yes, it will charge the battery. It has a MCP73831 Li-Ion charge controller IC for this purpose.

Note this refers to the Lilypad Arduino Simple board only (the one you link to) - the "Lilypad Arduino Main board" does not appear (from a quick look at a pic) to have anything in place for charging a battery.

Oli Glaser
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