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Most lower and middle end phone only support 3/4 LTE bands. High end phones, like the iPhone, or flagships from Samsung and LG also support a lot of bands.

  • iPhone 7: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30
  • LG G4: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28
  • Samsung S7: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 18, 19, 20, 29, 30 and the S8 has 22/24 of them.

Meanwhile, every lower-end smartphone (in my region) only has 1, 3, 7, 20. Not a stupid choice because it gets LTE service in almost every European country, but you don't get complete coverage.

And it's not only a choice of modem capability. Even the newly announced Xiaomi Mi6 only supports those four bands. And it has the latest and greatest of Qualcomm. Same SoC and the same modem as the Galaxy S8.

These high-end smartphone don't have 35 antennas. I don't think there are 35 different signal paths.

I understand that a higher-end smartphone could have more antennas with several distinct front-ends, allowing using multiple frequencies at the same time, but I don't see why a phone with only two antennas that support 800, 1800, 2100, and 2600 MHz would not be able to work with all those frequencies that are in between.

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Simply because having more bands not only requires a very versatile chipset, but also extensive antenna design!

To explain: It's impossible to make the perfect antenna for all frequencies, but you can make "compromise" broadband antennas. You can do that in a lot of ways, but in the end, you need to integrate those into a mobile device. And that's where it gets costly:

Now, you don't only have to simulate and measure your antenna in isolation, mounted on a low-loss mount in an anechoic chamber, but as integral part of a transceiver system (phone).

That leads to interesting solutions such as antennas being embedded in the plastic casing, a lot of time spent on tweaking the chipset's RF control registers, having multiple broadband antennas to even have a chance for diversity gain at all bands, and of course drastically increased development time and certification costs (you do have to get these approved!!).

Adding more bands to these the chipsets can receive will also add the need for more noise testing – your tuner / LO synth will have different spurs at different frequencies! So, that's another design – test – improve cycle you add for every single band you add. You can make that easier by throwing money at the problem (filters, more board layers allowing for more supply nets allowing for better isolation).

Those are all cost factors, so you don't do that if you just spin a new slightly modified phone for a specific market every two months. Or, if you really don't care for the non-{insert your home market here} market.

These high-end smartphone don't have 35 antennas. I don't think there is 35 different signal paths.

I'd agree on them not having 35 antennas. But really, the massive MIMO numbers people throw around when they're currently play the 5G-research-funding buzzword-bingo game are not that far away – mind you, not for mobile devices (physics doesn't let you have 35 statistically independent receptions in arbitrarily small receivers), and as said, you'd have to go for one wideband antenna (you can't have 35 narrowband ones close to each other and act like they are independent. Look at a Yagi antenna. There's at most one matched dipole in there. The rest is too short or too long, but still, the overall thing works as one antenna.), but yeah, having multiple active receiver chains is something we already do and will be doing more in the future.

I'd have a talk I'd like you to watch: Inside The Atheros WiFi Chipset - Adrian Chadd at Defcon14's wireless village. Not about 4G, but Wifi, but somewhere in the last third, he explains why you do not want to tune your Wifi chip to frequencies that the atheros folks didn't test, though you technically can.


Just another aspect that just hit me:

Might be the same chipset, but who tells me that Qualcomm doesn't sell you devices that have some bands disabled at a lower price than those with all bands enabled? After all, yield of semiconductors is limited by damages in all pieces of a semiconductor, not only the digital parts. Factory calibration of the chips might be a relevant production time and thus, cost element, too, so it'd be also logical to sell chips that have only been qualified on some bands at a different price than those that are qualified for all bands.

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  • "Now, you […] have to simulate and measure your antenna […] as integral part of a transceiver system (phone)." – And even after thorough simulation and testing you can end up with situations like the (in)famous iPhone 4, which would drop calls if you held it in your left hand. – Jörg W Mittag Apr 23 '17 at 12:49
  • Many multi-band antennas are not just wideband covering the whole range, but have multiple substructures that resonate at different​ frequencies. So their S11 will have a peak at each frequency of interest. – pericynthion Apr 23 '17 at 15:49
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    @pericynthion yep, true, I probably shouldn't say "wideband", but something like "multiband"; but the point stays the same: good matching for a lot of frequencies means compromises in size, cost, or overall efficiency, no matter what you do. – Marcus Müller Apr 23 '17 at 15:52
  • Indeed. Great answer! I guess my point is that such multi-band antennas are themselves difficult and expensive to design especially in the context of a highly integrated device – pericynthion Apr 23 '17 at 15:53
  • @pericynthion yeah. 800–2600 MHz? Use eg. a vivaldi. Oh, you only need specific bands of that, and the antenna has to work and fit inside a phone... uuh, that's a lot harder. – Marcus Müller Apr 23 '17 at 16:15
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    “Might be the same chipset, but who tells me that Qualcomm doesn't sell you devices that have some bands disabled at a lower price than those with all bands enabled?” I work for a modem manufacturer and the amount of bands is certainly causing a lot of problems/work. I don’t know about our pricing but it would be conceivable that they sell the same chip with different bands (firmware-)enabled for different prices to cover more of the market and recoup some of the development cost. – Michael Apr 23 '17 at 16:46
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    @Michael hajo. If you spend a lot on R&D for more versatile chips, you might still not want to lose the entry-level market segment by making all your products equally more expensive, but you also might want to stop producing the "old" models. So you have to make "new" models with "old" features. Not user friendly, but economically sensible. – Marcus Müller Apr 23 '17 at 17:18
  • There's also all the filters and power amplifiers to consider as well as the antenna. Duplex filters can't be shared as easily as antennas. – patstew Apr 24 '17 at 00:02
  • @patstew to be honest, a lot of the diplexing is, I think, done within the chipset today. Not quite sure, but last time I opened a smart phone, I didn't see a lot of specific band-selection SAW filters on there - and knowing the BOM cost of medium-run radio frontends that do have a few of dedicated band filters (way way wider even than what a cellular diplexer would have to achieve), I'd have my doubt you could buy a sub-1000$ phone if you had external filters for every up- and downlink pair. – Marcus Müller Apr 24 '17 at 06:30
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    AFAIK they're not individual discrete filters, they're all integrated into a handful of FEM packages. There's still a cost associated with them though. E.g look at [this](https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S7+Teardown/56686) galaxy S7 teardown. It has Avago AFEM-9040, Murata FAJ15, Qorvo QM78064, Qorvo QM63001A and Qualcomm QFE3100 ICs for its RF frontend, plus two Qualcomm transceiver ICs, just for the cellular radios. Cheaper phones won't have all that. – patstew Apr 24 '17 at 18:12
  • That makes the most sense. But I think we're still missing something. With Chinese OEMs (don't caring a lot with licensing fees, and have been stealing whole firmwares) and Mediatek chipsets (that have AFAIK all their config/firmware in main flash) I don't see why a smaller player would have shipped a phone with all bands enabled, just because they could. – Jean Apr 24 '17 at 19:43
  • @Jean My answer is about that. Physics applies to the Chinese,too,and so does the need for certification (you don't want to mess with the Chinese version of the FCC).And:You don't get any significant number of Snapdragons if Qualcomm thinks you're stealing from them;you can't go anonymously into a store and say,"hey, gimme 100,000 SoCs that are made-for-order and have have months of lead time".And the cheaper chipsets simply don't have that much of a multi-band support,exactly for of the reasons stated above.Each extra band simply costs extra money,no matter who implements it.**No shortcuts!** – Marcus Müller Apr 24 '17 at 19:50
  • @MarcusMüller, yes thanks, but it only clicked in my head when I thought of it as binning. If you're an lesser player, you're happy to advertise a Snapdragon 821. If you are LG or Samsung, and you're building a flagship, the you need the Snapdragon 821 with the superior modem and all certifications. QC sells downgraded chips so they don't have to throw them all, and bigger players still fight for premium ones. – Jean May 15 '17 at 08:36
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Why do only high-end phones support a lot of LTE bands?

Money (licensing fees), engineering expertise (for the antenna), and market positioning -> what's the point of selling phones with lte bands not in use?

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