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Please take a moment to look at the three-phase Y and Delta configurations pictures below (The pictures are screenshots taken from the “All About Circuits” online book).

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The first picture (Y configuration) shows the neutral node with negative polarities for all phases and the outside nodes with positive polarities for all phases. The second picture (Delta configuration) shows opposing polarities between the consecutive phases (plus, minus, plus, minus, plus minus clockwise rotation).

My questions revolve around the phase polarities as follows:

1) On the Y configuration, you can see that the author of the drawings labeled the neutral node with negative polarities for all phases. Given that AC voltage constantly changes polarities, why is he deliberately labeling the node with a fixed minus sing? The same goes for the outside nodes, why is he labeling them with fixed plus sings when those polarities are also constantly changing?

2) The other reason why all minuses and all plusses don’t make sense in my head has to do with phase shift. If all phases on a three-phase power are spaced 120 degrees apart from each other, there should be no way for all phases to have the same polarity at all times correct? In other words, it should be impossible for all phases to always be positive or always be negative. At one point in time or another, some will be positive and some will be negative correct?

Anyway, I am pretty sure that I am totally missing the point of what the diagrams are trying to convey so I was hoping someone could help me get a clue.

Thank you.

T555
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This has more to do with the windings inside the generators and connecting them correctly.

Three Phase Generator

Connect \$U_2\$, \$V_2\$ and \$W_2\$ together as a neutral. You get a 3-phase Wye connected generator.

Connect \$W_2\$ to \$U_1\$, \$U_2\$ to \$V_1\$ and \$V_2\$ to \$W_1\$. You get a 3-phase Delta connected generator.

Wired incorrectly and we do not get 3-phase generators.

For the delta: If you do vector addition, you get:

$$120∠0°V + 120∠-120°V + 120∠120°V = 0V$$

No current will flow in the delta winding because there is no potential.

But reverse any phase and you get:

$$120∠0°V + 120∠-120°V + 120∠-120°V = 240∠-60°V$$

Large voltage applied to small impedance of windings would mean large currents, creating an expensive fuse.

Nothing to do with question but indirectly dealing with the misconception of the question. The concept of polarities in ac circuits.

Some circuits put directions on currents or polarities on devices even though these reverse. It's primarily done to enable illustration for solutions. We do not know the context of the circuit without looking at where it came from. It's either that or we put bidirectional arrows on everything, which might add to confusion.

Directions on ac currents

Worse case they are right 50% of the time.

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It doesn't say so much about the polarity of the electric voltage, but more about the inductor, the winding. A more common way to indicate "polarity" of an inductor in electronics is to use a dot at one end of the inductor. If you apply a DC current to all inductors with the dot at the same side, the magnetic field in all inductors will be pointing in the same direction.

In case of a motor, swapping one windings polarity will reverse its direction.

jippie
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